Comments on: Race, Gender and the Iowa Caucuses http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses Religion and spirituality from a Unitarian Universalist perspective Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:56:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: A Woman Wins http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8917 A Woman Wins Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:30:10 +0000 http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8917 [...] Regarding the Iowa caucus results, I wrote that Barack Obama’s victory demonstrated that Iowa Democratic primary voters were able and willing to deal with whatever racial prejudices they may have held that would have stood in the way of their voting for an excellent candidate. [...] […] Regarding the Iowa caucus results, I wrote that Barack Obama’s victory demonstrated that Iowa Democratic primary voters were able and willing to deal with whatever racial prejudices they may have held that would have stood in the way of their voting for an excellent candidate. […]

]]> By: Shelby Meyerhoff http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8767 Shelby Meyerhoff Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:06:35 +0000 http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8767 Yes, I think that likability factor has always plagued her, perhaps unfairly (I can't see that she's really so unlikable!) And, as you noted, that interest in likability led to catastrophe in the previous presidential election (although there were other factors at work there too). Yes, I think that likability factor has always plagued her, perhaps unfairly (I can’t see that she’s really so unlikable!) And, as you noted, that interest in likability led to catastrophe in the previous presidential election (although there were other factors at work there too).

]]> By: Karbeth http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8764 Karbeth Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:50:37 +0000 http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8764 I'm having this problem, too, since the debate: how much is it the media and how much is it Clinton's campaign relying on him as a key tool. Whichever it is, right now she seems down because of the likability factor, which really upsets me. That's how we wound up with Bush. Regardless of Obama's qualifications and message, I'd hate to think that people would vote for him because he's the guy with whom they'd most like to have a latte. I’m having this problem, too, since the debate: how much is it the media and how much is it Clinton’s campaign relying on him as a key tool. Whichever it is, right now she seems down because of the likability factor, which really upsets me. That’s how we wound up with Bush. Regardless of Obama’s qualifications and message, I’d hate to think that people would vote for him because he’s the guy with whom they’d most like to have a latte.

]]> By: Shelby Meyerhoff http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8622 Shelby Meyerhoff Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:11:18 +0000 http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8622 Lizard Eater, John and Karyn, Thanks for commenting! Lizard Eater - You're right, Thandeka's challenge is quite relevant in light of what we are seeing right now. John, The level of racist discourse that is tolerated on television is astounding to me. Slurs (such as what Imus used) shock people, but racist ideas expressed in the language Bennett used are barely commented on. Karyn, I noticed that too, how the media is putting a lot of focus on President Clinton when analyzing Senator Clinton's candidacy. However, I can't tell how much of that is the media spin, and how much Senator Clinton's campaign has intentionally put him in the spotlight. Another UU blogger, Rev. Christine Robinson, had a post on this: http://iminister.blogspot.com/2008/01/hillary.html Lizard Eater, John and Karyn, Thanks for commenting!

Lizard Eater - You’re right, Thandeka’s challenge is quite relevant in light of what we are seeing right now.

John, The level of racist discourse that is tolerated on television is astounding to me. Slurs (such as what Imus used) shock people, but racist ideas expressed in the language Bennett used are barely commented on.

Karyn, I noticed that too, how the media is putting a lot of focus on President Clinton when analyzing Senator Clinton’s candidacy. However, I can’t tell how much of that is the media spin, and how much Senator Clinton’s campaign has intentionally put him in the spotlight. Another UU blogger, Rev. Christine Robinson, had a post on this:
http://iminister.blogspot.com/2008/01/hillary.html

]]> By: Karyn http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8579 Karyn Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:59:47 +0000 http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8579 Great post Shelby. One other thing I noticed about the media coverage: at least on CNN and Fox, pundits and newspeople kept referring to Hillary Clinton as "the Clintons," for example, "Don't count out the Clintons yet," as if to remind people that if you vote for her, you're most definitely getting him too. The media still have to link her to her man at every turn. Great post Shelby.

One other thing I noticed about the media coverage: at least on CNN and Fox, pundits and newspeople kept referring to Hillary Clinton as “the Clintons,” for example, “Don’t count out the Clintons yet,” as if to remind people that if you vote for her, you’re most definitely getting him too. The media still have to link her to her man at every turn.

]]> By: John Pageless http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8571 John Pageless Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:50:53 +0000 http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8571 Er, Uh, Wow. The moment a black man runs for president it becomes okay to be blatantly racist on national television. This is why I don't like politics. Namaste. Er, Uh, Wow. The moment a black man runs for president it becomes okay to be blatantly racist on national television. This is why I don’t like politics.

Namaste.

]]> By: Lizard Eater http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8570 Lizard Eater Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:30:13 +0000 http://www.lookingforfaith.org/blog/2008/race-gender-and-the-iowa-caucuses#comment-8570 Yeah, I've been noticing all the subtle race-centric remarks. Such as in a normal story about yesterday, it said something about Obama, "who seeks to be the first black president ..." I don't think he's seeking to be the first black president. I think he's seeking to be president. Period. Makes me think about Thandeka's challenge to refer to everyone as "my white friend (name)." Yeah, I’ve been noticing all the subtle race-centric remarks. Such as in a normal story about yesterday, it said something about Obama, “who seeks to be the first black president …”

I don’t think he’s seeking to be the first black president. I think he’s seeking to be president. Period.

Makes me think about Thandeka’s challenge to refer to everyone as “my white friend (name).”

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